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She's a Slob!

6/9/2016

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Hi. I’ve never written into any advice columns before, but I’m really at wit’s end. My 10-year-old daughter is a huge slob. Her siblings are not like this, and it’s getting to a point that I’m losing my mind. We have cleaning help, but even so, I strongly feel she should at least try to be neater. Not only does she leave everything all over the place, she herself doesn’t care about the way she looks, and I’m so embarrassed. I would love to hear your opinion. Private Flatbush

I would like to give you a bit of insight as to how I answer questions. The first thing I do is read each question and see if anything jumps out at me. In your email, there were a number of things that got me thinking.  First of all, I noticed that you wrote “Her siblings are not like this.” Although I understand your frustration, I can assure you that all kids are not created equal. It could be you are trying to prove that you have a clean and organized home, and I get that. However, once you start comparing your kids to each other, you’re playing a very dangerous game.

The second item that jumped out at me, was the fact that you wrote “I’m so embarrassed.” As parents, we need to focus on our children’s emotions and feelings when dealing with them, not our own. If your son has a temper tantrum in public, you can explain to him that he’s embarrassing himself. Remember that your daughter being messy does not mean you did anything wrong as a parent.

In any case, now that I’ve my had fun pretending I’m a psychotherapist, let’s look at your question.  There are many reasons that children are sloppy and/or disorganized. It could very well be that your daughter has ADHD and is somewhat incapable of staying organized. Alternatively, it could be that she is trying to act out and she knows you’re frustrated. It’s also possible, she’s just a slob.

Before I go through some ideas you can try, I would like to point out one important thing. I’m sure I’ve said this many times, but one of the main tricks for parenting is choosing the correct battles. Whereas you are sick of the mess she’s leaving, you need to question your decision regarding this battle. Yes, it’s a battle. If you harp on the mess too many times, it might create an even bigger barrier that will be difficult to remove.

 If your daughter is an otherwise well rounded and well-behaved child, then this might be a battle worth fighting.  But if there are bigger issues that might be more important in her development as a Bas Torah and mature girl, then perhaps leave it alone for now.  It’s okay to remind her every so often, but certainly not to make it into an issue.
I’m sure that a few of you are reading this and thinking “My parents yelled at me all the time, and I turned out fine!” You are correct. However, even fifteen years ago, kids were tougher. These days; not so much. I’m sure you would much rather deal with a bit of a mess now, than with a psychological mess in ten years.
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All that notwithstanding, there is what you can do to help your children be neater and more organized.
 
  1. If your daughter is leaving her stuff around the house, warn her, and then confiscate whatever it is. This is a simple consequence.
  2. There are many ways to remind a child to clean up.  I would suggest calling your child over and saying “I see shoes on the floor which belong somewhere else,” rather than “Please pick up your shoes and put them away!” There’s nothing wrong with a direct request once in a while, but giving indirect hints can make it easier on both of you.
  3. Don’t go around cleaning up after her. This is just enabling her.
  4. Instead of focusing on everything at once, choose one or two issues at a time.  For example, she has to brush her hair neatly every day.  Or, all laundry belongs in the hamper (and be sure to leave a laundry basket in her room to help her remember to do so. 
  5. I know of a parent who had an extremely messy child.  She made a deal with the child that each Friday her room had to be cleaned L’kovod Shabbos.  For the rest of the week, she left it alone. 
  6. If it seems that she is forgetting where she puts things all the time, it might not be a bad idea to have her checked out. This could be more difficult for her than you realize and there might be other options available.
  7. You can certainly be pro-active and help her by clearly labeling everything. Although it might seem childish, children that are unorganized can benefit tremendously from labeling.
  8. Remove items that are always part of the mess. If she keeps leaving a Rubik’s Cube in the kitchen, take it away. If your son always has Legos on the floor, take them out of his room.
  9. Set up a specific time for cleaning up every day (maybe 5 minutes in her room), and a longer period for Erev Shabbos (15 minutes for her room and one bathroom). The continuity is good for children.
  10. Make sure to set a good example for your kids. If you leave your stuff lying around, it’s awfully hard to tell your children it’s the wrong thing to do.
16 Comments
Shevy
6/9/2016 08:45:28 pm

Fun article! all my kids are slobs, but so is my husband I guess. It doesn't bother me so much.

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Eliezer
6/9/2016 08:47:24 pm

Rabbi Ross, you hit the nail on the head with your suggestions. Choose your battles people! Our kids need more love than ever.

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David
6/9/2016 08:49:59 pm

Many great ideas in here. Very impressive. Glad I signed up.

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Private
6/9/2016 08:50:41 pm

Another superb article. "It’s also possible, she’s just a slob." Love it!

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Dan Zerkowsky
6/9/2016 08:54:27 pm

This was the first article I've received since signing up on Monday. I'm looking forward to many more like this. Great job.

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Yocheved S.
6/9/2016 08:59:19 pm

As a mom with a slob, I can completely relate to much of this.

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Shira
6/9/2016 09:57:44 pm

Being messy can be nature or nurture. As parents, we need to make sure it's only nature, and that's not such an issue since they can learn better habits. If it's nurture, it's bad parenting.

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Bubby
6/9/2016 10:17:30 pm

I must thank you. My daughter is having this issue with her daughter, and she was so frustrated. I forwarded her this article, and she actually called me to thank me. You're doing a big Mitzvah with these emails.

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Aviva K.
6/9/2016 10:34:44 pm

Rabbi Ross. Aside from the excellent points, you should know that your articles are very well written. I enjoy reading articles that have commas and punctuation in the right places. It's easier on the eyes. Have a good Yom Tov.

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Shmuel Aryeh
6/9/2016 10:37:56 pm

Many good points. I really enjoyed your analysis about the questions. I agree that we should not compare siblings - it can be a disaster!

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Esther L.
6/9/2016 10:42:24 pm

I was a slob growing up. My parents - especially my mother made such an issue about it. Although I now have a good relationship with her now, we lost many years to it. I wish she would have seen this article.

I knew she was frustrated, but she never let me rest. Every day it was a fight. I'm actually getting upset remembering.

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Pinny E.
6/9/2016 10:53:21 pm

I would add one point. It's much easier to win this battle if you start young. Once you wait until the kids are 6 or 7, it's too late. Thank you for these great articles. They're a huge help.

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Devorah Malka
6/9/2016 11:11:00 pm

Great article. Thanks for taking the time every week.

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D. F.
6/10/2016 07:05:44 am

I need to try these suggestions. My way of dealing with this until now, was yelling. It works sometimes.

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Chaya Mushka
6/10/2016 09:28:53 am

Being neat is an important part of being a Yid. We must set a good example for our children so they can learn from us. If you look at our Gedolim, they were always dressed cleanly and looked neat.

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Daniel
6/10/2016 02:55:48 pm

Great article. I remember when being a slob was just being a slob. Nowadays, parents think everything is an issue. It's ok for some kids to be messy.

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