Rabbi Ross. As mid-winter vacation approaches, my husband & I are once again preparing for the onslaught of complaints from our children. We don’t go to Florida, and pretty much survive the week by hiring babysitters so we can continue to work. Why should we go to Florida? It’s warmer? Big deal! We should take off work every time our kids are home? How will we pay the bills? “Everyone else goes on trips or to Florida, why can’t we?”, is one of the many complaints we receive. We were wondering what you think we should respond to our kids. Incidentally, we have a 13-year-old girl, 11 and 8 year old boys and a 4 year old. Thank you for all of your hard work. Rivkie - 5 Towns
One of the problems I’ve always suffered from is that I am not very politically correct. Please forgive me if this answer comes off a bit harsh. I have close family in Eretz Yisrael and Lakewood, and if I showed them this question, they would be thoroughly confused. “What’s Mid-Winter vacation?” Additionally, there are many local families that live in the surrounding communities that also don’t have this problem. Why not? Because, they and their neighbors don’t go away on vacation. The point I’m trying to convey is that, in a way, your children are correct. You live in the Five Towns, and they are surrounded by all the trappings and “norms” of this particularly affluent neighborhood. Then you tell them, “It’s not for us!” Imagine if you took a 4-year-old on a sightseeing trip to Oh Nuts! How well would that work out? It could be that you had no choice when you moved to your neighborhood, or possibly it’s temporary. However, the fact remains that you live there now, and that’s what your kids are exposed to. I’m not saying there’s nothing you can do about your situation, rather I’m just trying to explain why your children might feel left-out, or envious of others. As a side point, it’s interesting to note that the terms “want” and “need” are often used interchangeably with children. If a child is exposed to a certain environment in which the majority of their friends are going somewhere or getting something, then what we might have perceived as a “want” is in reality something the child might “need.” Regarding the vacation, we can all agree that the 4-year-old does not require much of an explanation. Set up a playdate or two, and she’ll be fine. The other children require a bit more sensitivity regarding your situation. When trying to explain, or discuss, something difficult with your children (for example, why you’re one of the only families that doesn’t go to Florida), there are two essential criteria. The first is that you need to listen to your children. The second is that you need to be honest with them. Remember, this holds true for any discussion that you may have with them. Let’s discuss how to listen. A phrase that I hear from many parents is, “My kids just don’t listen!” Listening, like many other key skills, is a learned behavior. In order to teach our children how to listen, we need to listen to them when they talk! It’s not only when they’re older, we should listen to them all the time! Listening doesn’t mean giving in to them, or even agreeing with them, it means hearing and understanding their point, while giving them your undivided attention. Here’s how to listen. First of all, make eye contact and stop everything else when they begin to talk. Second of all, don’t listen to respond, listen to understand. When they finish talking, wait a few seconds before responding. Oh, and in case I forgot, maybe put the cell phone away and don’t keep checking it. The second criterion when having a discussion with your children, is being honest. Blaming the lack of vacations on something that’s untrue, can really hurt you in the long run. Telling your son, “I don’t want to take the family to Florida, since there are inappropriately dressed people”, is understandable. However, if you let your kids watch inappropriate videos, you’re being dishonest to yourself and your family. Alternatively, if you blame the lack of vacations on money, and then you go out and buy yourself the latest model Lexus, to your child it seems dishonest. Telling the truth to your children is one of the best ways to ensure that they will be honest, and even more importantly, that they will trust you. Now, let’s try out a scenario for the situation you asked about initially. Your 13-year-old daughter might say, “It’s so frustrating! Everyone else on the block goes away, and we have to stay in this dumb house! I hate living here!” How well were you listening? She made four points.
The next step would be to tell her, “I really understand you. I truly wish we were able to go away or do something special during winter vacation. Let me discuss this with Daddy, and see what we can do.” You shouldn’t be using this as a stalling tactic – I’m being serious. This is a chance for you to prove that you are a great mom/dad. Her last two points, about the dumb house and the fact she hates living in it, don’t really require a response. There’s no need to start telling her the house is not dumb. It’s also a bad idea to bring up all the fun things she’s done in the house. She was just venting. What should your final answer be? I have absolutely no clue. Maybe let her go away for a few days with grandparents? Possibly, you should actually go on a 2-day family trip? Check if she has any classmates or friends home and allow them to plan a fun day out. You can also offer her a special summer trip, if she is willing to be upbeat despite not going away? I’m sure you understand I can’t give you the perfect way to respond to her disappointment. Wishing everyone that’s travelling a safe trip. Good Shabbos YR
35 Comments
Dani
1/12/2017 06:29:06 pm
Well said. If you are living in an affluent place, be prepared for the cons.
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Rafi
1/12/2017 06:30:58 pm
I agree with this article in so many ways.
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Rena
1/12/2017 06:31:32 pm
Another great email. Keep up the great work!
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R.P.
1/12/2017 06:33:59 pm
What a beautifully written piece. This should be in every paper. Listen to your children!
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Mike
1/12/2017 06:35:45 pm
I got a kick out of this article. It's funny how parents expect their children to be perfect listeners, but they don't teach them how. Never thought about it!
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Ari D.
1/12/2017 06:51:15 pm
That's why we have a Rabbi Ross. To make us listen to our kids. :-)
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Chana S.
1/12/2017 06:37:04 pm
It also helps, if husbands listen to their wives. That also teaches listening skills.
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Ari D.
1/12/2017 06:51:57 pm
Seems kind of one sided. I would say if spouses listen to each other, it's even better.
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Rabbi Ross
1/12/2017 06:56:35 pm
Well said Ari.
S.M.T.
1/12/2017 06:44:12 pm
You wouldn't respond to the last 2 points? Tell her, "By the way, there's no reason to say those things if it's not true."
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Shoshana
1/12/2017 06:48:33 pm
Why would you go with Lakewood and EY? How about Bayswater and Far Rockaway? Also local areas.
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E.D.
1/12/2017 06:52:37 pm
I live in Far Rockaway, and I go away every year. Sorry.
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Rabbi Ross
1/12/2017 06:57:54 pm
That's why I didn't discuss local areas. There are those that go away from there as well. It's not a bad thing, I just don't want to focus on where people go, and how often. It's not the point of the article.
Retired Parent
1/13/2017 12:04:27 am
It may well be that the more famous people of the FiveTowns and machers are well off financially, much more than typical of Far Rockaway and Bayswater-however there are many houses in the Jewish areas of Inwood and the area near South Shore Yeshiva which are less expensive than most of Far Rock and Bayswater
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Dov
1/13/2017 08:51:07 am
You are correct. I bought the same house practically as a friend in cedarhurst, but paid 200k less.
Freida
1/12/2017 06:59:05 pm
Wonderful! I'm printing this right now!
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Shayna L.
1/12/2017 06:59:51 pm
Answering "No" isn't an option? Didn't we say that it's ok to say "No" to our kids?
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Rabbi Ross
1/12/2017 07:01:29 pm
Yes we did. However, we're talking about a case, that saying "No" might not be the best way to handle the situation.
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Ruchi E.
1/12/2017 10:43:01 pm
I would think that the FIRST part of a conversation is honesty. Why the second part?
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Azriel B.
1/12/2017 10:48:07 pm
Seriously? It was pretty obvious from the article, that the first step is to listen. How can you be honest without saying anything? First you listen, afterwards, you talk while being honest.
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A tired daddy
1/12/2017 10:43:56 pm
"Begin a soliloquy" wonderful! I didn't trust the spelling, so I verified with spell check. Good word usage.
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Private
1/12/2017 10:45:07 pm
Another A+ article Rabbi Ross. I do have a question. Is there something wrong if I buy myself a Lexus after working really hard? I think I earned it!
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Rabbi Ross
1/12/2017 10:46:57 pm
Not at all. However, if you tell your kids that you don't have a lot of money, they might be curious how you bought a Lexus. Personally, I like Infiniti's better :-)
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Rabbi Semel
1/12/2017 11:24:07 pm
"Imagine if you took a 4-year-old on a sightseeing trip to Oh Nuts!" That's a wonderful analogy! I will use this on Shabbos IY"H! Be Ge'Bentched!
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Chaya Mushka
1/12/2017 11:25:04 pm
The phone issue is a tough one. Parents don't put it down, and children and up being very socially unaware.
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Yehuda
1/12/2017 11:32:17 pm
The part about listening was huge. Absolutely huge. Should be mandatory reading for parents of all kids! Amazing article.
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Rivky Breuer
1/13/2017 12:57:59 am
Not discussing if we go away or not but my 12 year old daughter asked me how long my winter vacation was a kid...I told her we didn't have a winter break! Maybe Friday through Monday.
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Retired Parent
1/13/2017 09:40:56 am
Increasing vacations are a separate issue. I believe there are schools that had about a 5 day vacation for Chanukah and next week will begin a more than a week vacation for mid winter.
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Danny
1/13/2017 06:56:34 am
What I love about this reply, is that you didn't answer the question. There's no way you can! When people write in, they should understand that you can't help them solve certain issues, only guide them. Keep up the great work.
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Shimshon
1/13/2017 07:22:15 am
This is actually a common question. It's not about wealth, it's about lifestyle. Some parents will always take a vacation no matter what, while wealthier parents won't want to spend the money. The issue is, how to deal with your children . Very well written.
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Private
1/13/2017 08:40:28 am
What a great article. If you child wants something, it might not be that he desires it....it might be that he actually needs it!
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Shaya V.
1/13/2017 09:38:55 am
You know, many parents would gain tremendously if they listened to their kids. Putting the phones down is a huge step. Not just for a minute...for the evening!! Try it! It's freeing!
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Debbie
1/13/2017 02:56:06 pm
I work in a major 5 Towns school. So not true-only a very small percentage go out of town. Most hang out with friends or family.
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Rabbi ....
1/14/2017 06:01:50 pm
Debbie, I'm a Rebbe in YKLI, and I can assure you that many boys are going away. Many. I'm not sure where you work, but our community of the 5 towns definitely has many families that go to Florida or somewhere else.
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Sam
1/14/2017 06:02:43 pm
Wonderful article as usual. Hit the proverbial nail on the head!
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