Rabbi Ross. First of all, my husband and I greatly enjoy your articles. We are writing in because of something that we are confused about in regards to our children. The only time they listen to us quickly, is when we raise our voice. When my husband yells, it’s terrifying even to me, and he says that when I scream it’s ear piercingly loud. I don’t feel that we have a choice; they just don’t listen when we speak calmly. We would love your input. Shayna & Dovy - Brooklyn
It’s apparent that you understand that screaming or yelling is not conducive to a healthy home. When parents shout at their children, they are in essence telling them, “I’m out of control.” As your children grow older, they, too, will use shouting as a method of dealing with stressful situations. Obviously, this is not a message you want to impart to them. Off the bat, I would tell you both to stop. Don’t scream. It’s really not worth it. If you have the urge to make a point by shouting, remove yourself from the situation. Believe it or not, your kids will be more nervous if you abruptly walk out of the room instead of reacting. The real question is, why are your children not listening when you talk? Here’s an email from a different mother I received on the same subject: I told her, “Please hang up your coat,” and she didn’t even look at me. I said it again louder, and she gave me a blank stare and said, “What?” So I screamed, “HANG UP YOUR COAT! HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD EVERY DAY?! I’M NOT YOUR PERSONAL SLAVE!” You need to read the last few lines a few times. Was there a better way the mother could have reacted? The problem was that her daughter ignored her the first time. That’s unacceptable. By repeating her request the second time, she had already lost her credibility. Is it okay for a child to ignore a parent? Of course not! That is precisely the issue that requires addressing! In this above case, the problem was the mother being ignored. It could also be that your kids leave their toys all over the place and don’t take the initiative to help out, and you are super frustrated. If this is the situation, the issue would be that your kids are not cleaning up, and once again the yelling is an indication of a larger problem. Whatever the reason, yelling is a horrible idea. Here are some of the negative impacts it can have: 1) It teaches your kids that screaming is acceptable. 2) You are allowing your children see you lose control. 3) You are unintentionally approving of the fact that they don’t respond to a normal voice. 4) Your children will eventually yell back – which will only exacerbate the situations. Obviously, the best way to resolve this issue is to find the triggers. Realistically speaking, that’s easier said than done. In most cases there are many triggers, and not very many people can psychoanalyze themselves while dealing with children. Additionally, certain triggers can’t be helped. No matter how amazing of a parent you are, something will eventually set you off. Let’s play a game. Here’s a common scenario, and some choices in how to deal with it. Please choose one. One of your sons left the toilet seat down while going to the bathroom, which you cleaned 10 minutes earlier. Apparently, his aim leaves much to be desired, as the floor (and the seat) are wet. Upon viewing the carnage, what would you do? A) Call in all of your sons and show them the floor. Then, in a voice that could shatter glass, scream, “Which one of you did this after I slaved cleaning it up?! Why would you leave the seat up?!” Were you dancing while you were going to the bathroom…how else is this mess even possible?!” B) Call your sons down and say in a calm voice, “This is what I found when I came into the bathroom. Surely you understand why this is unacceptable. I’m extremely disappointed. I’m not going to ask who did this, rather I’m going to let the culprit clean up the mess and we’ll hope this doesn’t happen again. C) Clean it up yourself, while thanking Hashem that you are fortunate to have children. Going with “C” might seem like a good idea, but your future daughters-in-law might not appreciate it. I would go with “B”. Here’s what you would succeed in doing. 1) You would have a conversation about the mess, not about yourself. 2) You earned your children’s respect. 3) You ended the conversation without empty threats. Let’s try to keep this simple. You should not yell. By the way, this applies to moms and dads. Raising your voice isn’t what we’re talking about, it’s screaming out of control. Here are this week’s tips. 1) Prepare yourself before, during and after each situation. Remind yourself – even verbally, if necessary - that you are in control and you don’t need to yell. 2) Remember that your child is making his or her decisions. Your responsibility is to deal with these decisions in a mature way. 3) If you think you’re about to lose it, remove yourself from the situation. 4) If you are having a bad day, don’t vent on your children; that’s what your spouse is for (kidding)! 5) If your spouse is out of control, don’t contradict him (or her). It’ll only get him more upset. Besides, most times when parents lose control, they know they’re wrong. Telling them to calm down isn’t a smart move. I will not be sending an email next week (Chol HaMoed). Wishing you all a wonderful Yom Tov. YR Remember, the Yomim Tovim give you an opportunity to bond with your wonderful children, but they also allow you to appreciate how important school and structure are. Enjoy!
23 Comments
Shelly K.
10/13/2016 08:42:48 pm
Wow! What a great (and funny) article. Just signed up, and loving it! Thank you!
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David
10/13/2016 08:43:41 pm
I admit that I'm the one that loses control. My wife always tries to calm me down while I'm yelling, and it gets worse. Spot on Rabbi.
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Chaviva Zedler
10/13/2016 08:44:13 pm
I really enjoyed reading this email. Many great thoughts. Thank you.
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Zelig Yosef
10/13/2016 08:49:02 pm
Greetings from France! I just wanted to let you know that we appreciate your articles greatly over here! Chazak V'Emutz!
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Ariella Polevsky
10/13/2016 08:50:11 pm
Another wonderful article. I really enjoyed the bathroom scenario - it's very common in my house. :-)
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Leah Rosenberg
10/13/2016 08:50:58 pm
I'm awfully confused. If I'm flipping out on my kids, my husband shouldn't try to stop me? Aren't we partners?
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Zahava
10/13/2016 08:55:05 pm
He could try, but Rabbi Ross is saying it won't work.
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Rabbi Ross
10/13/2016 08:59:14 pm
You are partners. However, we learn in Pirkei Avos that if someone is angry they might need some time. It's especially difficult if the kids see. He should wait until you finish, and then give the kids a kiss. Later on, he can mention that he didn't know how to react and ask your advice.
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Frank Levin
10/13/2016 08:52:33 pm
I would like to compliment you. I am not a "email" fan, but I'm really enjoying these. Well done.
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M.L.S.
10/13/2016 08:53:58 pm
I was screaming at my son once, and then I realized I sounded like my dad when he yelled. That's not a good thing. It was a very sobering night.
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Private
10/13/2016 08:56:11 pm
This was a hard one to read. I am a horrible screamer. I can't help myself. I just flat out lose control. Any other suggestions?
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Rabbi Ross
10/13/2016 09:00:10 pm
There are other ideas, but if these don't work, others probably won't either. I would suggest seeing a therapist to figure out the underlying issue.
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Chaya Mushka
10/13/2016 09:02:02 pm
Isn't yelling just a sign of anger? Could that be the main issue?
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Rabbi Ross
10/13/2016 09:05:49 pm
Anger manifests itself in many ways. Yelling can be one of them. However, in many of these cases, the parent is usually more frustrated than angry. Unfortunately, I've noticed that when parents are really angry, they become more physical as opposed to yelling.
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Charles
10/13/2016 09:09:14 pm
As a card holding screamer, I would like to thank you. I probably won't change too quickly, but this email made me blush while I was reading it.
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Sarah
10/13/2016 09:47:34 pm
My mother was a screamer. We would actually tune her out when she yelled. Some of my siblings took after her, but I went to the opposite extreme (or so my husband says), and I'm too calm.
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Anonymous
10/13/2016 09:51:11 pm
Rabbi Ross - here's a great story for you. My 10 year old son made a mess in the kitchen a few weeks ago, and I went crazy. I must have yelled for 2 minutes straight. He didn't seem fazed, actually more bemused. Later that night, I went over to him to apologize, and he told me that he recorded me on his smart watch. I listened to it. It was horrible.
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Chezky L.
10/13/2016 10:21:58 pm
I laughed my way through this article. Why is it that boys can't get it in the toilet? I never had this problem! Could it be that they're doing something else (like playing on a phone) while going to the bathroom? In any case, wonderfully done. Have a great Yom Tov and enjoy your week vacation from parenting.
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Tammy Schindler
10/13/2016 11:27:10 pm
This really hit home. Thank you. Keep up the great work!
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Leibish
10/13/2016 11:29:05 pm
Is screaming so bad. Lots of times people scream and nuthing bad happens. I think you're making it into a big deal then it has to be. It's a nice website.
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Shua
10/13/2016 11:34:08 pm
Rabbi Ross. Once again you have brilliantly broken down an issue that many of us deal with. I have been trying to tell my kids that I have 2 voices, outside and inside. When I use the inside voice, it's calm and relaxed. The outside voice is loud and overbearing.
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Issac D.
10/14/2016 04:19:11 am
I thought this would be an article about kids screaming (which mine do) not about us telling. In retrospect, I probably yelled way too often, but now what?
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Faigy Karp
10/14/2016 04:20:35 am
I was surprised that you didn't mention merely acting angry in the article. Isn't that one of your ideas? Thanks so much for these emails by the way.
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